Navien · Combi boiler

E004 False flame detected

High severity Navien NCB-HNavien NFC-H

What the control is telling you

The control sees a flame signal when there should be no flame. NFC-H manual lists the reset type as: Manual reset / Auto reset.

Applies to: Navien fire-tube combi boilers, NFC-H series (NFC-250/200H, NFC-250/175H) and NCB-H combi boilers (NCB-250/150H, NCB-240/130H, NCB-240/110H, NCB-190/080H, NCB-190/060H)

Likely causes

  • Poor electrical ground on the power cord/outlet
  • Moisture or deposits on the flame detector electrode
  • Gas valve not closing fully

Test and repair steps

  1. Make sure the power cord/outlet is properly grounded (the manual's listed remedy).
  2. Check Status Information > 17. Flame Value with the burner off: flame-off reads 175 or higher; flame-on reads 70 or lower.
  3. Remove, inspect and clean the flame detector electrode and check its gasket.
  4. Warning: if a flame is still present after the gas valve closes, shut the manual gas valve and do not run the boiler until the gas valve is checked.
  5. Code keeps returning? Phone Navien Technical Support, 1-800-519-8794.

Settings for these units

Minimum installation clearances (indoor) · Navien NCB-H

SideMinimum
Top9 in (229 mm)
Back0.5 in (13 mm)
Front4 in (100 mm)
Sides3 in (76 mm)
Bottom12 in (300 mm)

Indoor wall-hung only; ambient must stay above 32°F (0°C).

Do not install on carpet; leave room for service.

Water quality limits (DHW and system fill) · Navien NCB-H

ContaminantMax allowed
Total hardness200 mg/l (12 grains/gallon)
Aluminum0.05 to 0.2 mg/l
Chloride250 mg/l
Copper1.0 mg/l
Iron0.3 mg/l
Manganese0.05 mg/l
pH6.5 to 8.5
Sulfate250 mg/l (DHW table); 205 mg/l (fill table)
Total dissolved solids500 mg/l
Zinc5 mg/l
Chlorine (fill water)4 mg/l

Scale damage from poor water is not covered by warranty.

Manual shows sulfate 250 mg/l on p.23 and 205 mg/l on p.29 - check local guidance.

Models that show this code

7 models in Navien NCB-H, Navien NFC-H

NCB-190/060HNCB-190/080HNCB-240/110HNCB-240/130HNCB-250/150HNFC-250/175HNFC-250/200H

Other codes on the same units

  • E001 Heat exchanger overheat
  • E003 Ignition failure
  • E012 Flame loss
  • E016 Heat exchanger overheat (overheating of heat exchanger)
  • E030 Exhaust overheat (abnormal exhaust temperature)
  • E031 Burner overheat
  • E046 Heat exchanger thermistor / overheat sensor fault
  • E047 Exhaust thermistor fault

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Source: Navien NCB-H Installation & Operation Manual, 11.7 Understanding Error Codes, p.129-130; Navien NFC-H Installation Manual, 11.7 Understanding Error Codes, p.127-128. Summarized in our own words; check the original manual for your model.

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