Navien · Boiler
E004 False flame detected
What the control is telling you
The control sees a flame signal when there should be no flame. Manual action: check the electrical ground.
Applies to: Navien NHB-H (NHB-055H/080H/110H/150H) and NFB-H fire-tube (NFB-175H/200H) condensing boilers
Likely causes
- Poor or missing electrical ground
- Contaminated, wet or shorted flame rod
- Gas valve not closing fully (flame present after shutdown)
Test and repair steps
- Verify the boiler is plugged into a properly grounded outlet, or if hard-wired that ground is not taken from gas or water piping.
- Check the ignition ground wire at the casing and test ground continuity with a meter.
- Check polarity of the power supply connection.
- Read the Flame Value in Status Info 70 or less means flame on, 175 or more means flame off. A low value with the burner off confirms a false signal.
- Warning: Power off. Inspect and clean the flame rod and its wire; replace if damaged.
- Warning: If flame stays on after the call ends, shut the manual gas valve and replace the gas valve.
Settings for these units
Installation clearances (indoor) · Navien NHB-H
| Side | Minimum clearance |
|---|---|
| Top | 9 in (229 mm) |
| Back | 0.5 in (13 mm) |
| Front | 4 in (100 mm) |
| Sides | 3 in (76 mm) |
| Bottom | 12 in (300 mm) |
| Vent to combustibles | 0 in |
Bracket gives 5/8 in (16 mm) from the wall; studs at 16 in on centre.
Common vent installs: 36 in above the top and 24 in in front are recommended for service.
Installation clearances (indoor) · Navien NFB-H
| Side | Minimum clearance |
|---|---|
| Top | 9 in (229 mm) |
| Back | 0.5 in (13 mm) |
| Front | 4 in (100 mm) |
| Sides | 3 in (76 mm) |
| Bottom | 12 in (300 mm) |
| Vent to combustibles | 0 in |
Do not install on carpet; indoors only.
Remove the wood pallet and refit the 6 screws to keep the cabinet airtight.
Models that show this code
6 models in Navien NHB-H, Navien NFB-H
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Source: Navien NHB-H Installation and Operation Manual, 11.14 Understanding Error Codes, p.119; Navien NFB-H Installation Manual, 11.7 Understanding Error Codes, p.116; NHB-H User's Information Manual (V1.0 Apr 2024), 5.2, p.24. Summarized in our own words; check the original manual for your model.
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